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- From: aklein@vcomtelc.telstra.com.au
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
- Subject: Re: Dump the crappy hardware!!! (was: Haynie joins AT team)
- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 08:26:15 GMT
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- kpluck@es.co.nz (Kevin Pluck) wrote:
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- >>It's the OS that makes the machine tick, for God's sake! A standard
- >>PClone today has 10x the CPU and graphics speed of an Amiga, but the
- >>Amiga can still do things those PClones can't. Why? Because of the OS.
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- >Thats the best move I believe, scrap the hardware (its relative crap nowadays)
- >make the Amiga system hardware independent (you can't just port the OS you have to
- >make the whole thing independant or you won't be able to use things that work
- >UNDER the OS like AMOS)
- >AT are making the wrong move with trying to design hardware for the amiga when
- >they should be making the amiga designed for other hardware. Why reinvent the wheel?
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- >The hardware AT is designing and manufacturing is available off the shelf in a
- >different format. If they invested the money they are spending on the design
- >of the hardware into a hardware independent amiga software that can use this
- >different format to their advantage.
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- >Imagine an amiga running on a dec-alpha or even a Cray! :-) All the bits and
- >pieces are there (graphics, sound, processor power, RF/AV modulators) the works.
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- >All that is required is to redesign the software (It'll be difficult, agreed, but
- >you will be using the competitors weapons against it once you are finished)
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- >Natural Selection: To digest without being digestible.
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- Give up what?, These custom chips have proven them selves time and
- time again. The pc clone wold has just recently started to catch up to
- the AMIGAS standard. Win 95 still won't multitask to the extent the
- AMIGA can, and to do it you need a shit load of CPU power and memory.
- Yes it well may do it on a 38x DX40 but bloody slooowly. Evan a 486
- can be slow at times. As for the graphics side of things, the AMIGA IS
- STANDARD for the AMIGA!!. What if we did all plug in the SVGA card,
- which one would we choose, the S3 or the Trident or pehaps the CIRUS
- Logic, or perhaps the Tseing labs. They all come with their own
- drivers!, Why? i hear you ask, well its because none are compatible
- with eachother except in certain video modes and even then those can
- change. This does not stop here either, each program on the pee cee
- also has its set of drivers, eg autocad, windows, lotus, etc etc. Noe
- of these drives are a standard either one cant be used for the other,
- and therfore the packages need to be written for every sort of video
- avaiable. Now try to port your stupid games over, which standard are
- you going to use now. The whole thing about a custom chipset was to
- remain compatible enhance the OS and free the CPU up for doing more
- important CPU things. The reason the OS does what it does so well is
- because of the very backbone it is sending its signals down, THE
- BLOODY HARDWARE! I have a degree in computing and to this day we still
- have discussions on the efficencies of the AMIGAS design. Custom
- hardware does work. Look at Intell, Intell processors are custom to
- Intell and pc's! this is a silly thing to say. The chipset in the
- amiga is the cpu to the IBM. the graphics of the AMIGA are not an IBM
- standard THEY ARE AN AMIGA STANDARD!!! Sun standard is SUN standard
- Mac is MAC etc, etc. This is why they are seperate companys, this is
- why the make profit. The only way an OS will run smoothly is if it
- compliments the hardware it is using and has been designd for. put 95
- on your 386, it suxs but it could still be a good OS!. Nope I disagree
- with you extreamly the days of single CPU processing are gone.
- Mutli-processing is the way of the future, it has been a proven winner
- for more than 10 years now. Good on the AMIGA, it is doing somthing
- new, doing a good job, lets see it improve. AMIGA Os would not run
- like an amiga on a SUN. Nor would SUN OS on a pee cee. A Cray computer
- is just a little out of reach for most pockets and still The OS would
- not run the same anyway.
- Silly argument.
- Adam.
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